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Wer sich Sorgen macht etwas zu verpassen (nicht nur News): Spielgeschwindigkeit in Räumen auf 0% stellen.
Das hat viele Vorteile...man bekommt ne "Verschnaufpause" um sich in Ruhe Sachen anzuschauen. Man kann sich angewöhnen um kurz vor volle Stunde ins Nachrichtenstudio zu gehen, und hat dann einen prima Überblick darüber was es gibt.
(es ist nicht vorteilhaft die News schon früh zu setzen, und es bringt auch nix sich mehr als einmal pro Stunde damit zu beschäftigen)
Jo man muss dann aus Räumen draussen sein damit die Zeit weiter läuft..ist wohl Geschmacksache ob man lieber drinnen oder draussen ist 
Ich bin fast lieber draussen und schau dem treiben zu.
Der Wetterbericht ist vermutlich überteuert...die Terrorist-News sind es auf jeden Fall.
Es gibt einen "Preis mod" bei den meisten Filmen & News, d.h. nur weil etwas teuer ist muss es nicht gut sein. Und umgekehrt können günstige News auch effektiv sein.
Ich spiel mit editierten Dateien und weiss nicht mehr wie es jetzt in der offiziellen Version ist, aber da gab es vor ca. 1 Jahr noch krasse Unterschiede die gerade für neue Spieler schwer zu kapieren sind / waren.
Hab interessanterweise bisher eher Beschwerden gelesen, dass die News kaum / zu wenig Auswirkung hätten.
Den News-Planner komplexer zu gestalten halt ich nicht zuletzt deswegen für ein wenig Overkill. (Und was wär in dem "Neben-Slot"? Wetter zum einen, was noch?) So viel wirtschaftliche Auswirkung sollten sie letztlich dann ja auch nicht haben.
So ein Pop-up-Feature könnte man vielleicht erörtern, aber ich glaube nicht, dass es die Wetter-News speziell sind, die die gefühlte positive Auswirkung haben, sondern "gute" News allgemein. Insofern muss man eh regelmäßig im News-Raum vorbeischaun, wenn man die besten News nicht verpassen will.
> Dann könnte man wie bei MadNews, verschiedene Wetterdienste abbonieren
Das klingt auch ein wenig wie Overkill, aber man könnte überlegen, ob man (ein bisschen wie bei den Produktionen in Mad TV - Standard, Advanced, Deluxe oder sowas) das News-Studio und die Production Values der Wetterbeiträge und anderen Beiträge ein wenig "ausbauen" könnte (oder eben machen wie bei den Produktionen in TVTower, dass man Aspekte wie "Kulissen", "VFX", "Qualität Nachrichtensprecher" von 1-10 ausbauen könnte).
News-Threads über z.B. die Ölpest kannst du gerne selbst entwerfen und beisteuern (nur die Texte erstmal reicht, den Rest machen wir). Das müssten dann zwei Threads sein, die parallel getriggert werden, das sollte heute schon möglich sein. Evtl ist es auch schon möglich, dass News-Einträge Auswirkungen auf das Image haben können.
Hallo miteinander,
ich bin mal wieder über das forum gestolpert und habe natürlich sofort die neue Version angezockt. Bin richtig begeistert, vielen Dank für die neuen Serien, Filme und sonstigen veränderungen!
Da es hier aber hauptsächlich um Ideen geht, habe ich etwas im Hinterkopf, was mich bei jedem durchspielen beschäftigt. Und zwar habe ich das Gefühl, dass der Wetterbericht sozusagen Quotenentscheidend ist. Wenn man verpasst den rechtzeitig auszutauschen, geht die Quote signifikant runter. Das Resultat bei mir ist, ich verbringe viel Zeit im Newsticker und warte auf den nächsten Wetterbericht, um danach in Ruhe und Ohne Sorge meine anderen Aufgaben zu erledigen. Daher wäre ein Popup, dass es einen neuen Wetterbericht gibt, für mich sehr entspannend.
Wo wir dann schon beim Newsticker sind, sieht man ja dass dieser sich sehr am Original orientiert. Wobei das Programm selber schon in der Neuzeit angekommen ist.
Könnte man die Nachrichten nicht mehr in Richtung dem Programmplaner gestalten?
Mehr Slots für die News und danaben separate Slots, wie die Werbeslots, für das Wetter z.B.
Dann könnte man wie bei MadNews, verschiedene Wetterdienste abbonieren, von Wetterkarte über Sattelitenbild und änliches.
Dazu würden "gesponsorte" News interessant sein. Wenn es z.B. eine Newsserie über eine Ölpest gibt, könnte es gegensätzliche News dazu geben, die die Auswirkungen herabspielen, für die man, wenn man diese sendet, bezahlt wird, dafür aber Gefahr läuft Image zu verlieren.
Don't know how relevant it still is, but there was a Genre-Discussion in 2016: https://www.gamezworld.de/phpforum/view … 506#p83506
Neue (Primär-) Genres braucht man für Seifenopern eigentlich nicht (wir haben eher zuviele), mir ging's um das Handling/Format von Seifenopern, aber auch Dauermagazinsendungen etc, weil es bei solchen Formaten keinen Sinn macht, hunderte Episoden in der Datenbank zu erstellen.
Aber nun zu was anderem -- wurde schon einmal darüber nachgedacht Programmen und Nachrichten Lokalvariablen hinzuzufügen?
Da habe ich auch schon drüber nachgedacht, aber da macht man ein mächtiges Fass auf. Im Moment haben wir aber ja eh nur die deutsche Region, aber wir arbeiten ja daran, das Spiel internationaler zu machen.
Es geht ja schon an bei den Filmem, sowas wie "Otto der Film" (8,5 Mio vs 5 Mio bei "Zurück in die Zukunft") oder "Traumschiff Surprise" (auch 2,5 Mio mehr als Harry Potter) hatte hierzulande in den jeweiligen Jahren mit Abstand die meisten Kinobesucher, aber es "fühlt" sich einfach falsch an, solchen Filmen die gleiche Outcome-Wertung zu geben wie den Hollywood-Blockbustern, darum sind die als "Kompromiss" ein bisschen abgewertet. Internationale Spieler, die diese Filme kaum kennen, sollte das auch nicht stören, es gibt ja auch allgemein viele fiktive Filme im Spiel, die meinen vielleicht dann, es ist was Fiktives.
Aber Moonshot-Features irgendwann wären vielleicht: Es gibt mehrere Karten. Eventuell könnte man sogar expandieren auf die anderen Karten. Oder es gibt gleich eine Weltkarte. Filme und andere Programme könnten ein Rating haben für die globale Audience, und bei Bedarf noch eins, das für bestimmte Karten/Regionen gilt. Man hätte in verschiedenen Regionen unterschiedliche Einschaltquoten, und evtl gibt es dann Werbeverträge, bei denen man auf sowas aufpassen muss. Usw usf
(Auf Unterscheidungen bis runter auf Breiten- und Längengrade würd ich jetzt nicht gehen wollen.)
In the Empire TV Tycoon game, there were times when some kind of catastrophe or very strong news story happened and we had the option of recording a special live report of the moment to broadcast as a news report. It would be nice to be able to show these special reports.
As I've said in previous posts, it would be an interesting idea to produce a live newscast lasting 1 hour or more. This could increase the ratings among viewers who like news.
The option of being able to choose the length of each episode of series and films would be interesting. Sometimes I want to produce a series with 2 hours in each chapter and I'm restricted to what's already in the script.
It would be interesting to have a classification of viewer types. For example, my station is more popular with young people than Station B, so I have more audience with programs for young people than Station B.
I'd add an extra touch to the strategy
Have more competing channels in addition to the 4 that already exist.
I see where you're coming from, maybe we can keep some of those on the radar for the long-term. But for now I still think managing more than 1 station is a bit overkill.
> It would be interesting to add the Telenovela or Soap Opera genre. The genre is very popular around the world. In the United States Soap Operas are shown in the afternoon and in Central America, South America and several European countries they are even shown in prime time.
Right now we have only "normal" series, i.e. which need a title and description for each episode. I made a proposal a while back for a format that wouldn't need these. https://github.com/TVTower/TVTower/issues/957
RIght now, a soap opera format would have to be trimmed down to a "best of" thing or something, there are already some examples in our database.
> I think there's a lack of this type of game nowadays. And TV Tower is more complete than Empire TV Tycoon.
Good to hear. I have only heard about Empire TV Tycoon but never played it. Would you like to share what you like about it and what you don't? Which of its features would be good for TVTower?
No jogo do Empire TV Tycoon, as vezes acontecia algum tipo de catástrofe ou noticia muito forte e tínhamos a opção de gravar um jornalístico especial ao vivo do momento para transmitir como um plantão jornalístico. Daria um toque poder exibir esse plantões especiais.
Como disse nas mensagens anteriores, seria interessante a ideia de produzir um telejornal com 1h ou até mais de duração ao vivo. Isso poderia aumentar a classificação de audiência nos espectadores que gostam de noticias.
A Opção de poder escolher a duração de cada episódio das séries e filmes seria interessante. As vezes quero produzir uma série com 2h em cada capítulo e fico restrito ao que já está no roteiro produzido.
Seria interessante ter a classificação de tipos de telespectadores. Exemplo, minha emissora é mais popular entre jovens do que a emissora B, então eu tenho mais audiência com programas para jovens do que a Emissora B.
Daria um toque a mais na estratégia
Ter mais canais concorrentes além dos 4 já existentes.
Atenciosamente
Michel Castro
> It would be interesting to add the Telenovela or Soap Opera genre. The genre is very popular around the world. In the United States Soap Operas are shown in the afternoon and in Central America, South America and several European countries they are even shown in prime time.
Right now we have only "normal" series, i.e. which need a title and description for each episode. I made a proposal a while back for a format that wouldn't need these. https://github.com/TVTower/TVTower/issues/957
RIght now, a soap opera format would have to be trimmed down to a "best of" thing or something, there are already some examples in our database.
Don't know how relevant it still is, but there was a Genre-Discussion in 2016: https://www.gamezworld.de/phpforum/view … 506#p83506
Aber nun zu was anderem -- wurde schon einmal darüber nachgedacht Programmen und Nachrichten Lokalvariablen hinzuzufügen?
Grundgedanke ist, dass bestimmte Ereignisse und Sendungen in einzelnen Regionen zu höheren Einschaltquoten führen. Ein Beispiel dafür wäre die heutige Nachricht dass gestern morgen Ortszeit 94% der Fernsehzuschauer in Kansas City das American Football-Spiel zwischen den Chiefs und den Miami Dolphins schauten.
Deutsche Beispiele wären höheren Quoten im Ruhrgebiet bei dem Derby zwischen dem BVB & Schalke, oder Sendungen zum Jubiläum des Hamburger Hafens oder des Münchner Oktoberfest, die in diesen Gebieten ein höheres Interesse haben dürften als im Rest des Landes.
Dies könnte man mit vier Variablen erreichen: dem Länge- und Breitengrad auf der Deutschlandkarte, dem Radius, und der Faktor um den sich die Quote erhöht wenn sich ein Sendemast in dem Bereich befindet.
Dieses würde dem Spiel eine weitere, strategische Note hinzufügen.
> It would be interesting to add the Telenovela or Soap Opera genre. The genre is very popular around the world. In the United States Soap Operas are shown in the afternoon and in Central America, South America and several European countries they are even shown in prime time.
Right now we have only "normal" series, i.e. which need a title and description for each episode. I made a proposal a while back for a format that wouldn't need these. https://github.com/TVTower/TVTower/issues/957
RIght now, a soap opera format would have to be trimmed down to a "best of" thing or something, there are already some examples in our database.
> I think there's a lack of this type of game nowadays. And TV Tower is more complete than Empire TV Tycoon.
Good to hear. I have only heard about Empire TV Tycoon but never played it. Would you like to share what you like about it and what you don't? Which of its features would be good for TVTower?
I had learned on discord a while back that this game is especially "kinda" popular in Brazil, that's really curious. Is it available on some popular download site there?
You seem to be hooked on the concept of a TV station manager in general. I've always found it curious that this genre was never taken on by one of the big (US-American) software companies back in the 1980s/1990s in TV-crazy USA. Thus there was really only this obscure German Mad TV game, kinda loved in Germany, but not so well-known outside.
Despite its obvious shortcomings (limited library of films and shows, weak AI, no "modding", etc) there never really was a successor that could improve on it.
There was Mad TV 2 which had some of the features you request afair, and there were also some commercial similar games over the years which tried to replicate the success, but they never really could replicate what the essence of Mad TV really was. They lacked the humor, were too bloated and complicated, etc...
So TVTower is a nice project also in regards of sticking to the essentials. *If* one day there are many more contributors and developers, I think many new developed features should remain optional and only become default after those features proved worthwhile in the community of players.
So far there are only 2 main developers, and new improvements are developed in baby steps, but I think it's possible that the "floodgates" will be opened some time in the next 1-2 years for a lot of new contributors to join.
Next important step would be to include the game in the popular Linux repositories, which could attract the necessary technically sophisticated audience. This game absolutely has the potential to become a staple FLOSS Linux game and remain "sticky" indefinitely in the top 10 strategy / business simulation category there.
Olá!
Não me recordo de como descobri a existência desse jogo, mas confesso que desde a descoberta se tornou um dos meus favoritos.
Por incrível que pareça não conheço plataforma grande que tenha o TV Tower. Acredito que o jogo se popularizou de acordo com as pesquisas de jogares brasileiros mesmo.
Atualmente uso o TV Gigant para ficar por dentro de novas atualizações.
Acho que hoje em dia existe uma carência desse tipo de jogo. E o TV Tower acho mais completo que a Empire TV Tycoon.
Não sei mexer com programação de jogos, mas gostaria de poder ajudar.
Atenciosamente
Michel Castro
Allowing maps other than the German one are prepared in general. See res/maps. However, creating maps and matching data for another country is quite some effort (nothing I could do). AND having an additional directory with those files will not be the only necessary change. For example, some other aspects are currently still hard-coded, like the position of the initial antenna. For other countries it might have to be placed somewhere else.
There might also be further issues - if the total population is much smaller, (significant) changes might have to be made with respect to calculating film prices, profit for ads, station costs etc., because the potential income per block might be much lower.
So the "implementation costs" for adding a second country are very hard to estimate. As far as I know, Ronny is currently working on completely refactoring the population calculation, so right now might also not be the best time to start working on the map for another country.Long-Term-Sammys are an interesting idea: best movie of the year, most improved channel, most diverse programme etc. However, I think they are not quite easy to incorporate (currently at most one Sammy at a time, next Sammy randomly chosen). Also, I think only the human player will gain from this change. Given the number of current implementers and time available per implementer, the focus will be on changes that have the greatest positive effect for the least effort.
Additional channels (more than 4) and channels of another type (paid via subscription, IPTV) will be a major implementation effort, which I do not see in the near future.
Remakes and news programmes are a feature that could be potentially addressed. You buy a movie/a news item, bring it to the script agency and order a custom script (maybe choosing one of the script writers), you pay a fee in advance and come back some time later to fetch the new script. Its quality values are partially randomized. This script can then be used for a custom production (including changing title/description) like existing scripts.
... It would be nice if you could proof-read and provide missing transaltions for the *_pt-br.txt files in res/lang. Over the last couple of versions new texts were added and except for German, English and French (upcoming version) the translations are quite incomplete.
Olá!
Como que eu poderia enviar os textos em português para vocês?
Seria interessante acrescentar o gênero Telenovela ou Soap Opera. O gênero é muito popular no mundo. Nos Estados Unidos da América as Soap Operas são exibidas no período da tarde e na América Central, América do Sul e diversos países da Europa exibem inclusive me horário nobre.
A Opção de criar telenovelas seria interessante pois existem canais que exibem durante 1 hora ou até mais telejornais de forma integral.
Acharia legal se durante a produção no estúdio a gente pudesse escolher de forma manual a dueração dos programas exibidos. Tipo escolher 1 hora, 2 horas, 3 horas de programas por exemplo.
Atenciosamente
Michel Castro
I had learned on discord a while back that this game is especially "kinda" popular in Brazil, that's really curious. Is it available on some popular download site there?
You seem to be hooked on the concept of a TV station manager in general. I've always found it curious that this genre was never taken on by one of the big (US-American) software companies back in the 1980s/1990s in TV-crazy USA. Thus there was really only this obscure German Mad TV game, kinda loved in Germany, but not so well-known outside.
Despite its obvious shortcomings (limited library of films and shows, weak AI, no "modding", etc) there never really was a successor that could improve on it.
There was Mad TV 2 which had some of the features you request afair, and there were also some commercial similar games over the years which tried to replicate the success, but they never really could replicate what the essence of Mad TV really was. They lacked the humor, were too bloated and complicated, etc...
So TVTower is a nice project also in regards of sticking to the essentials. *If* one day there are many more contributors and developers, I think many new developed features should remain optional and only become default after those features proved worthwhile in the community of players.
So far there are only 2 main developers, and new improvements are developed in baby steps, but I think it's possible that the "floodgates" will be opened some time in the next 1-2 years for a lot of new contributors to join.
Next important step would be to include the game in the popular Linux repositories, which could attract the necessary technically sophisticated audience. This game absolutely has the potential to become a staple FLOSS Linux game and remain "sticky" indefinitely in the top 10 strategy / business simulation category there.
Allowing maps other than the German one are prepared in general. See res/maps. However, creating maps and matching data for another country is quite some effort (nothing I could do). AND having an additional directory with those files will not be the only necessary change. For example, some other aspects are currently still hard-coded, like the position of the initial antenna. For other countries it might have to be placed somewhere else.
There might also be further issues - if the total population is much smaller, (significant) changes might have to be made with respect to calculating film prices, profit for ads, station costs etc., because the potential income per block might be much lower.
So the "implementation costs" for adding a second country are very hard to estimate. As far as I know, Ronny is currently working on completely refactoring the population calculation, so right now might also not be the best time to start working on the map for another country.
Long-Term-Sammys are an interesting idea: best movie of the year, most improved channel, most diverse programme etc. However, I think they are not quite easy to incorporate (currently at most one Sammy at a time, next Sammy randomly chosen). Also, I think only the human player will gain from this change. Given the number of current implementers and time available per implementer, the focus will be on changes that have the greatest positive effect for the least effort.
Additional channels (more than 4) and channels of another type (paid via subscription, IPTV) will be a major implementation effort, which I do not see in the near future.
Remakes and news programmes are a feature that could be potentially addressed. You buy a movie/a news item, bring it to the script agency and order a custom script (maybe choosing one of the script writers), you pay a fee in advance and come back some time later to fetch the new script. Its quality values are partially randomized. This script can then be used for a custom production (including changing title/description) like existing scripts.
... It would be nice if you could proof-read and provide missing transaltions for the *_pt-br.txt files in res/lang. Over the last couple of versions new texts were added and except for German, English and French (upcoming version) the translations are quite incomplete.
Obrigado pela resposta!
Canais fechados que me refiro são os canais de tv que necessitam de uma assinatura para serem vistos.
E vocês já pensaram em inserir prêmios anuais de melhores filmes entre outros tipo um Emmy?
Acho que seria interessante acrescentar a opção de criar sequências de filmes e poder comprar séries e filmes que já existem no jogo para criar um remake.
A opção de criar mais novos canais concorrentes além dos 4 que já existem deixaria o jogo mais interessante não acha?
A opção de criar telejornais com durações maiores que 5 minutos seriam legais pois poderíamos produzir telejornais no horário nobre.
Não sei como funciona aí na Alemanha, mas aqui no Brasil por exemplo, temos as emissoras regionais e locais que retransmitem o sinal dos canais abertos grandes e colocam programação local também.
Desculpa estar enviando tanta pergunta.
Adoro a TV Tower e jogo desde 2016. O jogo se tornou um dos meus favoritos.
hi Michel,
> I think it would be interesting for channels to compete with other cable TV channels. For example, the open channels could compete with the closed channels combined.
Maybe it's because of the language barrier but I don't understand what you mean with "closed channels"? Do you mean "external" or "invisible" ones that are not in the game? Right now the game pretty much pretends that the 4 TVTower channels are the only ones in the country.
> I'd also like to give the idea that we could write our own scripts instead of depending on the character who writes them. I could create as many comedy shows as I wanted at the same time, for example.
That's an idea I also had a while back, but it basically comes down to a quite sophisticated in-game editor. Another problem is of course the ratings, either the player can set them, which will feel a bit like cheating, or they are completely randomized, which may feel unsatisfactory (you put some "heart and soul" into a "good" description and then it's "rated" as complete garbage). Sure we can discuss some "moonshot" ideas how a program like this could recognize potentially good movies.
> Do you have any ideas about expanding the game to new maps beyond Germany?
The game is free and open source, and many things depend a lot on external contributors. Regions are a descriptive/configurable feature and require no coding (as far as I know), just a lot of dedication to create a map (for Brazil?) along with the necessary population data.
> It would also be interesting to be able to create the channel before 1980.
That's definitely an easy one and can probably be already achieved today by changing some config settings (i.e. without changing and recompiling the code), but for my taste we would require a bit more content for 1970 and earlier, and we will have to pay a bit more attention to the storytelling aspect of the game (age of in-game personalities etc) in order to be able to make that "official" one day, but I'm definitely for it (we already have some "marathon" players that play for decades, so it's better to be able to start earlier).
Bom dia!
Acho seria interessante os canais concorrerem com outros canais da TV a Cabo. Por exemplo, os canais abertos concorrerem com os canais fechados somados. Gostaria de dar a ideia também da gente poder escrever o próprio roteiro ao invés de ficar dependendo do personagem que escreve. Poderia criar quantos programas de humor ao mesmo tempo eu quisesse por exemplo.
Vocês tem alguma ideia de aumentar o jogo em novos mapas além da Alemanha?
Seria interessante também poder criar o canal antes de 1980.
Jo ich fände es auch sehr charmant wenn Figuren wie Betty auch im Haus rumlaufen würden. Was man da noch alles für Sachen machen könnte mit so einem Feature. Ist aber im Moment leider utopisch befürchte ich.
Davon, den Spieler noch mehr zu drangsalieren, halt ich aber auch nicht viel. Gab ja schon Beschwerden hier von neuen Spielern mit dem Aufzug, weswegen viele im Cheat-Mode spielen. Die Herausforderung und der Schwierigkeitsgrad in so einem Spiel sollte durch anspruchsvolle Gegner erfolgen, nicht durch künstliche Barrieren. Wenn also Betty und der Chef rumlaufen (dass man die dann zwangsläufig nicht in ihrem Büro antreffen würde wär noch ok), dann sollten die die im Moment eh zu vielen Hausmeister ersetzen.
Gut, manchmal denk ich, vielleicht sollteń wir uns ein wenig freeciv zum Vorbild nehmen, das freie Civilization. Da ist das Regelwerk konfigurierbar für den Spieler bis zum gehtnichtmehr, und das per GUI und nicht in irgendwelchen XMLs, sogar unterschiedliche Grafiksets gibts, sowohl von Haus aus als auch nachinstallierbar, einfach auswählbar. Einer der Unique "Selling" Points von *freien* Spielen. Aber wär auch ein äußerst umfangreiches TODO.